Tuesday, May 27, 2025

The Tales of the Valiant 2 Players Guide 2 Kickstarter

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/deepmagic/players-guide-2-new-power-for-5e-and-tov-players

The Tales of the Valiant 2 Players Guide 2 Kickstarter is live, and they are giving out a full table of contents to look over. This is the shot in the arm the game needed, as we are getting:

  • Three NEW base classes beyond the core thirteen.
    • Vanguard, Witch, and Theurgist.
  • Equipment and magic items, featuring magical tattoos and rewards for player characters at 20th level.
  • New options for all classes, including new Heroic Boons and 48 new subclasses.
  • Over 150 new spells and variant spellcasting options, such as spell points and reimagined rune casting.
  • Expanded base building and downtime rules ...and much more!
    • Base type, workers, and facilities are included (with upgrade options).

The game will have more subclasses than D&D 2024 now. It will also feature an answer to D&D's bastion system, complete with bases. There are farming, creature training, and raising rules! Can I run a Stardew Valley or Minecraft-style base builder? Yes!

We get new alternate spellcasting rules for "rune casting" and "spell points."

We get war animals.

I am also seeing new "Epic Advancement" rules, along with Mythic Gifts and Prestige Awards.

I also see a Sea Elf and a Drow as a stretch goal!

We are getting more heroic and epic boons.

We get a Toy Maker subclass for the mechanist! We get Summoner and Necromancer subclasses for the wizard!

The Vanguard looks like the commander-style class (Warlord) from D&D 4E! I am so happy to see one of our favorite class concepts return! We don't have to approximate the Witch class either, or play Pathfinder to have it. We have one in 5E now.

They took the feedback they got from the original books and tripled down, delivering even more than the community wanted. This is precisely what the game needed to break into the mainstream, and it gives us more than we were asking for.

All of this, just like ToV itself, is cross-compatible with 5E, so you could use this as an expansion for D&D 2024 (or 2014) if you would like. Plenty is directly usable, and the classes can drop in alongside 5E classes in a game, and I have heard of this being done. Some use the ToV ranger in their 2024 D&D games just fine, so there is no reason you can't use the mechanist toy maker in a 2024 D&D game.

Yes to this book 100 times!

This is the serious expansion we need.

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